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Posted on 04/18/08 1:46:23 PM
Retractile
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Negotiation
Hello VPR's,

I was thinking that we might want to come to an accord. Obviously, you can't be in all systems and sectors continuously and when you guess wrong there are innocent people getting hurt.

My thought is, that if you agree to pay me 1 mil cr per system (excluding Itani space) per week, I will agree to not ... errr ... do harm to those under your protection.

Agreed?
Your buddy,
Retractile


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Posted on 04/18/08 2:26:39 PM
Strat
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Heh. No. How about this? You swear to give up piracy and any criminal behavior of any kind forever, and I will agree to not smash your ship into little tiny pieces every time I see you like I have been for the last few weeks. Agreed?

Posted on 04/18/08 3:18:31 PM
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This isn't diplomacy, this is aggressive negotiations!

Posted on 04/18/08 3:45:11 PM
MDuncan
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We are offering in return a "mandatory option" to either surrender or be smashed to bits on sight.

Thank you for your initial offer, but we decline.


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Posted on 04/18/08 4:13:45 PM
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Thank you for clarifying what you want out of this deal gentlement. I must say that your intitial counter proposal comes across as being somewhat rigid. But being men of good faith, I'm sure we can find an arrangement that is flexible enough to satisfy all parties. After all, we are all interested in the safety and well being of all traders, miners or explorers as they travel. It could be devastating for them and their families should they lose their cargo or potentially their lives.

On my end, I am willing to stop hijacking channel 4357 as part of our agreement.

On a different subject, have I made the VPR KOS list yet? If not, what do I need to do to get there?

Your pal,
Retractile

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Posted on 04/18/08 5:03:25 PM
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You're in [CLM]. That makes you automatically KOS.

Posted on 04/18/08 11:28:54 PM
Retractile
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Awesome!

I look forward to continuing our negotiations next week.

Your friend,
Retractile

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Posted on 04/19/08 05:50:50 AM
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Re: Negotiation
*giggle*

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Posted on 04/19/08 1:16:07 PM
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Uh huh....Retractile...in my office ASAP

Posted on 04/19/08 2:04:14 PM
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<bows>

As you command, Majesty.

Your obedient servant,
Retractile



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Posted on 04/19/08 11:33:28 PM
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That was some fun negotiating today, Retractile. I relentlessly negotiated you dozens of times.

Posted on 04/19/08 11:42:20 PM
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rofl

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Posted on 04/20/08 1:59:39 PM
Retractile
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Re: Negotiation
And don't you forget it!

/me hopes Strat has learned his lesson.

Seriously though, we aren't negotiating for the protection of VPR, we are negotiating safe passage for all or some traders and miners. Perhaps if the fee is excessive to what VPR can afford, the other guilds such as TGFT, PA, ITAN or SCAR might be willing to make contributions towards this effort

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Posted on 04/20/08 6:50:19 PM
Kira Yamoto
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i dont believe the fee is the issue, i do believe its "negotiating" with pirate scum with credits rather then large explosions and/or lasers. altho from what i hear ull be running out of credits before u can do signifigant harm to the innocents.

Posted on 04/21/08 00:00:17 AM
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Mr. Yamoto,

My credit supply tripled over the weekend. The only thing that might keep me from doing harm is my hand falling off from all the great combat training VPR and its allies PA, TGFT and Roda Slane have been so generous in giving.

May you succeed in all of your endeavors,
Uncle Retractile


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Posted on 04/22/08 7:58:19 PM
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Keep up the great negotiations VPR. negotiate the heck outa them


Posted on 04/23/08 01:09:47 AM
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It seems so far that VPR only understands the language of violence. That being the case, I will have to make my case a bit more strongly. Ten traders will die.

Your friend,
Retractile

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Posted on 04/24/08 04:56:03 AM
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This is excellent on every level.

Posted on 04/24/08 05:27:01 AM
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Feel free to pie rat in my general direction...

Posted on 04/24/08 12:10:26 PM
Strat
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Greetings, IonicSpartan. Welcome to the forum. Don't mind Retractile. We let him run around and play here. Just keep your fingers away from his mouth.

Posted on 04/25/08 9:24:58 PM
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I must apologize IonicSpartan. I have been slacking in my duties of late. When I return, I will make every effort to avoid the pvp trap that VPR has been enticing me into and commit myself fully to the hunt.

Your offer is greatly appreciated and accepted.

Your pal,
Retractile

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Posted on 05/08/08 1:51:23 PM
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IonicSpartan wrote:
Feel free to pie rat in my general direction...


I believe you have been properly pirated and counted among the casualties promised.

Your friend,
Retractile

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Posted on 05/08/08 1:55:34 PM
Retractile
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Strat wrote:
Greetings, IonicSpartan. Welcome to the forum. Don't mind Retractile. We let him run around and play here. Just keep your fingers away from his mouth.


Indeed. I pretty much have the run of the house. Speaking of which, I still need the rest of the VPR forums enabled for my account.

On another note, where have you been hiding Strat? I'm ready for more combat training. I've really gotten good at taking out trade ships thanks to the lessons you've been giving me.

Grateful for you accomodation,
Retractile

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Posted on 05/09/08 04:52:14 AM
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huh.... I don't recall being pirated...

Posted on 05/09/08 10:58:43 AM
Retractile
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IonicSpartan wrote:
huh.... I don't recall being pirated...


I must have boomed you too hard the other night then. You've lost your short term memory.

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Posted on 11/18/08 2:17:20 PM
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Hrmmm.

Anyways, back to business. With the end of faction protection in sight and the multitude of changes already in place, particularly the silly forgiveness option, I feel its time to redefine the direction of our negotiations.

Soon and very soon, oh halelujah! I will be able to hunt everywhere, including my native land of Itani. So there is effectively no safe place for anyone. I hereby resubmit my demand that VPR compensate me 1 million credits per week for each system they wish protected. I think you've had long enough to think about this since our last meeting. You've seen the devastation that has resulted from your past refusal to agree to my terms. So, I believe this is a prime opportunity for both of us to progress to a reasonable agreement.

Additionally, I would submit a second item for negotiation. With the forgiveness option and faction protection soon ending, I think it is in both our interests to come to a mutual forgiveness agreement. So basically, VPR agrees that when I make your members go boom in nation space, said member opts to forgive. And for my part, should by some off chance one of you manage to destroy my ship, I will do the same. I feel that this arrangement will save all of us from the unnecessary neusance of faction repair. After all the cheat procs won't always be there, and with the devs getting a bit annoyed and making admire to POS cost anywhere from 900 to 1200 faction points for one kill, (not being POS is very costly) it can be quite time consuming to recover (and dangerous if I'm around).

I eagerly await your full support and agreement.

Just when you thought he was gone....
Uncle Retractile

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Posted on 11/19/08 01:15:08 AM
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You uh... do realize that you won't be POS everywhere when they remove faction protection, right? They're going to release that *at the same time* as the other faction system fixes.

Posted on 11/19/08 03:28:09 AM
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Sembei wrote:
You uh... do realize that you won't be POS everywhere when they remove faction protection, right? They're going to release that *at the same time* as the other faction system fixes.


But ... but ...
Everybody loves me!

That remains to be seen. So far, much of what they've done has had gaping holes that either work for or against players. Ie. They implemented turrets, even putting 16 on each side of capital system wh's, They've rigged it so that killing an admired player can cost 900 to 1200 faction points. Yet, myself and others still hunt in Dau.

They've essentially killed trade as it used to be done. Stockpiling has become a loss activity. Working a system quickly kills all high profit trades which takes significant time to find in the first place I might add. So in system trade is now a brief low profit activity. They've forced people to trade multiple systems. However, do to the uselessness of stockpiling, this is merely a frustrating endeavor that quickly gets forgotten in favor of the easier profit running escort missions. Which ultimately means that if you want to make at least mediocre credits in VO, you have to do it through the mission system and can't play outside the box.

So, you may be right about me not being able to keep all of my POS status'. Ultimately though I expect there to be unforeseen consequences to this implementation. I also expect a lot of player to get burned by it, at least until they've repaired what they feel useful to keep. After all, the devs have a record of dropping these changes without any warning so players can't prepare themselves. Heaven forbid someone take 'advantage' of the forewarning.

/end soapbox
Uncle (who thinks you need to get in game so he can make you go plody ;-)





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Posted on 01/16/10 11:21:34 PM
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By the mighty power of Thread Necromancy this topic is hereby restored to life...

As is Retractile..........

Now. Where is My Naoko?

Also, I put a bit towards the forum, if someone could just shoot a confirmation that it took. I don't quite trust that paypal thingy.

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Posted on 01/17/10 02:02:17 AM
Strat
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Re: Negotiation
Retractile wrote:
By the mighty power of Thread Necromancy this topic is hereby restored to life...

As is Retractile..........

Now. Where is My Naoko?

Also, I put a bit towards the forum, if someone could just shoot a confirmation that it took. I don't quite trust that paypal thingy.


Welcome back, Retractile. Thanks for the donation! Awesome!

Posted on 01/17/10 7:53:02 PM
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Greetings, Retractile! I look forward to negotiating you!

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