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Posted on 06/05/08 03:02:25 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
What happened to the Wiki!?
Just yesterday is was working SO well!! |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:20:28 AM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
It's gone. It was actually deleted while trying to fix your "additions". There is no backup either. |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:22:09 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
It's a disaster. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:37:50 AM |
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FreedomBird
Senior Member [VPR] Posts: 239 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Wow, that fits into the "Crap" category. Guess until it's back up we need to work harder on educating new players about the dangers of grey and rats. Aside from that, it was mostley just member and foe info and various other aesthetics. Also, we need to warn new players about /displayshippos..... _________________ Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of those who threaten it |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:41:10 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
what is /displayshippos..... ? _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:48:25 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Holy crap seriously?! There weren't that many edits! How could you possibly have deleted the whole thing?! |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:51:38 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
And furthermore, I was only correcting SOMEONE ELSES edits!! And also, WTF MATE! How could the whole thing have been erased?! |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:52:47 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
There was a corruption in the db on the hosting level, plus it had been in a stage of "removal pending" for some reason. When I went in to the control panel to make a backup, it finished the removal. Sigh... usually we would have just have to undo the last few changes within the wiki, but one member who had been given access and left us shortly after made changes to the wiki and the files that disabled my admin access completely, so there was no way to go in. etc etc etc... etc.. did I say ETC? DAMN. Well maybe we can get it back up in a patient group effort. I will have backups frequently and several people will have admin rights. Unfortunately mb and nerde who had rights are not around anymore. So we have to set it up from scratch now. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:55:17 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Its done, no need to blame anyone.. shit finally happened (and all of it at once). Let's take a deep breath and pull together, for those who have patience to contribute again we appreciate all your work in the past and in the future. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:58:28 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Wow. I feel slightly responsible (but mostly it's mecha's fault)... I guess it was the straw that cramped the camel or whatever... Ok, I'll contribute real content now! (guess i Have to learn how a wiki actually works eh?) |
Posted on 06/05/08 03:59:58 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I even tried the Internet Wayback machine, no luck.... |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:03:52 AM |
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FreedomBird
Senior Member [VPR] Posts: 239 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I'll help out, and /displayshippos puts like a rolling scroll of cartoon hippo images right in the middle of the HUD, making anyone easy prey who doesn't know how to turn it off. I see people (usually rats and griefers) telling newbs all the time "Just type /displayshippos, it helps a lot" ...... Sorry commander, you just had to ask.... _________________ Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of those who threaten it |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:05:28 AM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I saved a few pages from google cache and transfered them to my hard drive, but it is maybe 1% of the total, and it doesn't include any of the articles. We'll just rewrite as much as we can. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:06:57 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
haha if you are serious, I did not know this. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:19:32 AM |
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FreedomBird
Senior Member [VPR] Posts: 239 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
No joke, they fixed it so that simply typing /displayshippos a second time turns it off. You should give it a go Commander :P _________________ Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of those who threaten it |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:24:45 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
LOL, ok I will. The devs have nothing to do.... haha _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:34:16 AM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Damn it, tumble. If you mess with this one too, I'll lock you out of the main page. PA is not a pirate guild. Now if you can actually be helpful, do it. Otherwise, go away. |
Posted on 06/05/08 04:36:10 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Just a small correction strat my friend... Turn on the feature that requires an account to make changes. That way bots won't start tossing adverts into your wiki at random. PS PA is totally a pirate guild... |
Posted on 06/05/08 08:51:23 AM |
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Ishathis Bessuni
Lieutenant & Council [VPR] Posts: 956 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
/displayshippos used to display your ship position, but it was exploited or exploitable. The devs thought that it would be amusing to display hippos instead. I think there's a more detailed explanation on vo-wiki.com. |
Posted on 06/05/08 09:38:19 AM |
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Retractile
Pirate Posts: 323 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Don't forget /displayshippos got nerfed in the last update so all they have to do is re-run it to turn it off. _________________ Hoist the Jolly Roger Maties! I see traders dead ahead... |
Posted on 06/05/08 12:41:44 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Here is the link to the new wiki: http://www.viperguild.com/wiki/index.php5?title=Main_Page I'll try to get it to link to www.viperguild.com/wiki like the old one did, but I have to figure it out. I wasn't admin on the last wiki, but am on this one, so I'm new to all this. I don't have any experience with php or wiki administration. |
Posted on 06/05/08 1:42:52 PM |
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Retractile
Pirate Posts: 323 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I extend my regrets to VPR over this loss. I've gotten a lot of good advice off of the VO-wiki and a good portion of was from the VPR pirate section, especially when I was a 'nice' guy who just wanted to trade and mine in peace. Might I suggest adding a bit for new players on how to deal with pirating/griefing at a station or in monitored space? I'm not going to give away trade secrets, there are certain sob's out there ----> ME >:) who love nothing better than to get some newbie or even a vet riled up and let them kill them in faction space or at a station. Which since I'm admired at most places costs them in faction. And once I get POS at those places its a 900+ faction hit. Anyway, no trade secrets but something I thought you might want to add in this version since I don't recall seeing a discussion of it in the last edition. Your friend, Retractile (who is off to rebuild his UIT standing ;) ) _________________ Hoist the Jolly Roger Maties! I see traders dead ahead... |
Posted on 06/05/08 1:54:32 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I added a section a few weeks ago to the "Common Pirate Locations" article that warned about griefers in station sectors. I wish I knew what it said... Here is a link to the thread on the VO RP forum about the loss of the wiki: http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/7/18997 I'm not sure if they'll start a separate thread in the community projects forum to discuss rebuilding it and keep the RP aspect of it that tumble wrote separate in the RP forum. |
Posted on 06/05/08 11:16:52 PM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Doesn't your service provider have a backup? Mine would, and even free hosting services have redundant back-ups... |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:04:49 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Well not if you delete your own database? BTW I found this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=+site:www.viperguild.com+viperguild.com/wiki _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:07:20 AM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Yeah, I found that too. I already restored everything that was on the main page. |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:11:01 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
More on live.com http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=+site%3Awww.viperguild.com+viperguild.com%2Fwiki&go=&form=QBLH _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:20:40 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
More on Yahoo http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/advsearch;_ylt=ApAjbmKybj8NzCdB9zHcLTDal8kF?ei=UTF-8&p=http%3A%2F%2Fviperguild.com&searchbwm=Explore+URL _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:26:00 AM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
That live.com link doesn't work, but I played around with it and it has much more than google cache! It actually has all of the pages from what I can tell! The info isn't lost after all. |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:40:13 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Live has alot, click the cached links. I been pasting in alot from there. More to do. I wonder what other search engines keep caches. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/06/08 00:44:12 AM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Nice work. The entire wiki is on live.com. It's all we need. The formatting is going to take forever, but at least we have all the text ( as of 5/2/08 ). What happened to the image in the upper right? It was correct last night. Now it just shows the patch. Also, we need to figure out how to link the main page to www.viperguild.com/wiki like it was before. You sure your ISP doesn't keep its own backup, Duncan? |
Posted on 06/06/08 05:47:59 AM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/search?p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.viperguild.com%2Fwiki%2F&bwm=p&bwms=p&fr=yfp-t-501&fr2=seo-rd-se ALOT there. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/07/08 06:29:59 AM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I just spent some time grabbing the remaining content from MSN live cache and my computer's Safari cache. I think I got all that is available. It looks like we saved about 90% of the content. There were a few pages I couldn't find, but I never knew they existed in the first place (random inactive pirate user pages, etc...), so it's not a huge deal. The only big task left to do is reformatting a lot of the pages. I formatted a few, but the majority I just dumped in by copying & pasting from the cache. We also have to add category tags. I only did a few, but every page should really have them. So we still have a bit of work ahead of us, but we'll get there. Thanks to those who helped out so far. |
Posted on 06/07/08 8:14:57 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I have just made another ims and forum backup. Will check about the wiki. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/07/08 10:09:48 PM |
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Impavid
Pirate Posts: 161 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I was TRYING to help, then you all went and blocked my username! |
Posted on 06/08/08 9:51:41 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Thanks to Ishathis, we fixed the redirect problem we were having. The URL http://www.viperguild.com/wiki now redirects to the main page like it used to. |
Posted on 06/08/08 10:14:41 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Great work Ishtatis, thank you for helping the VPR Guild. And thank you Lt. Strat for getting it organized and solved. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/09/08 3:01:08 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
One of the only major things missing still that I know of is the image of the Bounty Hunter badge. Does anyone have a copy of it? It's not on the VO wiki. Is it even still in the game? A lot of people had it in their bio pages, so it'd be nice if we could get it back. |
Posted on 06/09/08 5:48:23 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I think epideme made it. I dont have it. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/09/08 8:20:04 PM |
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Sembei
Former Member Posts: 224 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
None of the other backup sites had it? VO has bounty hunter badges, actually, but they're not used... if we had a way to know which one was for which nation we could probably use them. |
Posted on 06/10/08 5:27:32 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Backup sites? If you mean Google Cache or MSN Live Cache, those sites do not cache images. I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're saying, Sembei. So there is an actual badge? Epideme did not create it himself? I remember it had a Boba Fett style face on it. Are you also saying that each nation has a different style badge? |
Posted on 06/10/08 5:29:18 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Hm,... I am UIT bounty hunter, and there is no badge showing for it in my character tab. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/10/08 6:03:19 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Maybe they removed the badge now that it doesn't do anything? Maybe it used to exist? |
Posted on 06/10/08 6:37:20 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I still think Epideme made it. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/10/08 7:42:14 PM |
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Sembei
Former Member Posts: 224 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Er, I said that they're not used despite being in media.rlb... I can grab them, but I don't know which is for which nation. |
Posted on 06/10/08 7:48:40 PM |
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Vehement
Former Member Posts: 140 Reply  |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
The one on the VPR wiki was not the one Sembei is referring to. |
Posted on 06/10/08 7:54:12 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
ah ok that explains it. :-) Well Sembei grab what you can get... hehe we can put it up either way. _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/10/08 8:07:23 PM |
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Sembei
Former Member Posts: 224 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
I'll ask ray or momerath first, I don't know if those images are supposed to be 'public' knowledge. |
Posted on 06/10/08 8:09:10 PM |
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MDuncan
Council [VPR] Posts: 2900 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Aye _________________ M. Duncan Commander 10/13/13/13/12 m.duncan@viperguild.com |
Posted on 06/10/08 8:14:56 PM |
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Strat
Commander [VPR] Posts: 3964 Reply |
Re: What happened to the Wiki!?
Thanks for clearing that up. |
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